大庆市政府采购中心关于大庆市植物园监控系统安装采购质疑答复(一)
2019-01-11 03:31:00
<html><body><div class="vF_detail_content"> <meta content="text/html; charset=utf-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"/> <meta content="text/css" http-equiv="Content-Style-Type"/> <meta content="Aspose.Words for Java 14.9.0.0" name="generator"/> <title></title> <div> <p style="font-size:14pt; line-height:150%; margin:0pt; orphans:0; text-align:center; text-indent:15.75pt; widows:0"><a name="downLoadzbwj"></a><span style="font-family:宋体; font-size:14pt; font-weight:bold">质疑答复(一)</span></p> <p style="font-size:12pt; line-height:150%; margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 24.05pt; orphans:0; text-align:justify; text-indent:5.25pt; widows:0"><span style="font-family:宋体; font-size:12pt">DZC20182608</span><span style="font-family:宋体; font-size:12pt">项目各供应商:</span></p> <p style="font-size:12pt; line-height:150%; margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 24.05pt; orphans:0; text-align:justify; text-indent:5.25pt; widows:0"><span style="font-family:宋体; font-size:12pt">经采购单位申请对</span><span style="font-family:宋体; font-size:12pt">DZC20182608</span><span style="font-family:宋体; font-size:12pt">大庆市植物园监控系统安装采购质疑答复如下:</span></p> <p style="font-size:12pt; line-height:150%; margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 59.45pt; orphans:0; text-align:justify; text-indent:-24pt; widows:0"><span style="font-family:宋体; font-size:12pt">一、</span><span style="font:7.0pt 'Times New Roman'"> </span><span style="font-family:宋体; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">供应商问题1:</span><span style="font-family:宋体; font-size:12pt">针对招标文件要求商务条款第6、7、8、9条的质疑:</span></p> <p style="font-size:12pt; line-height:150%; margin:0pt 0pt 0pt ***5.5pt; text-indent:10.5pt"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt; letter-spacing:0.2pt">招标文件要求商务条款第</span><span style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'; font-size:12pt; letter-spacing:0.2pt">6</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt; letter-spacing:0.2pt">、</span><span style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'; font-size:12pt; letter-spacing:0.2pt">7</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt; letter-spacing:0.2pt">、</span><span style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'; font-size:12pt; letter-spacing:0.2pt">8</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt; letter-spacing:0.2pt">、</span><span style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'; font-size:12pt; letter-spacing:0.2pt">9</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt; letter-spacing:0.2pt">条要求提供</span><span style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'; font-size:12pt; letter-spacing:0.2pt">***2</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt; letter-spacing:0.2pt">路网络硬盘录像机、定点卡口摄像头、高清星光定点枪机、综合管理平台四项产品的检测报告。经查询,以上检测报告不满足三个品牌,属于限制性条款,具有排他性。质疑理由如下:</span></p> <p style="font-size:12pt; line-height:150%; margin:0pt 0pt 0pt ***5.5pt; orphans:0; text-align:justify; text-indent:15.75pt; widows:0"><span style="font-family:宋体; font-size:12pt; letter-spacing:0.2pt">报告是质量检验部门或者第三方检测机构针对产品质量、功能的检测。不同品牌的产品的检测部门或检测机构不同,检测项也有所不同,相同功能可能检测名称不同,所以不能用某产品的某一项参数检测结果限制其他品牌。</span></p> <p style="font-size:12pt; line-height:150%; margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 24.05pt; orphans:0; text-align:justify; text-indent:5.25pt; widows:0"><span style="font-family:宋体; font-size:12pt"> </span><span style="font-family:宋体; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">采购单位答复1:</span><span style="font-family:宋体; font-size:12pt">国内安防主流厂商针对产品质量功能的检测部门均为国家安全防范报警系统产品质量监督检验中心及公安部安全与警用电子产品质量检测中心。所以不存在检测机构不同。</span></p> <p style="font-size:12pt; line-height:150%; margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 24.05pt; orphans:0; text-align:justify; text-indent:***6.1pt; widows:0"><span style="font-family:宋体; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">供应商问题2:</span><span style="width:8.85pt; text-indent:0pt; display:inline-block"></span><span style="font-family:宋体; font-size:12pt">以上四项产品所提检测项是参数的一部分,是否提供满足商务要求的检测条款,就说明满足所有技术参数要求?或者是检测报告必须满足全部参数要求才算合格,如果是这样又何必单独列出若干条参数中的某些条款,而不是检测报告要体现招标要求所有参数?在技术参数中提出某些条款的检测报告作为商务要求是否是针对某一品牌设置?请采购单位予以解答。</span></p> <p style="font-size:12pt; line-height:150%; margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 24.05pt; orphans:0; text-align:justify; text-indent:***6.1pt; widows:0"><span style="font-family:宋体; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">采购单位答复2</span><span style="font-family:宋体; font-size:12pt">:整个项目系统应用的室外环境非常复杂,大庆市植物园是属于重点安全防范场所。以上四项产品提出的参数要求是我单位实际使用需求的必须项,如不满足则证明供应商所提供的产品无法满足我单位使用的需求。经市场调查此四项产品的功能要求海康威视、天地伟业、宇视、科达、大华科技等多家满足。为了保证项目质量,我方将保留技术参数要求。</span></p> <p style="font-size:12pt; line-height:150%; margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 24.05pt; orphans:0; text-align:justify; text-indent:***6.1pt; widows:0"><span style="font-family:宋体; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">供应商问题***:</span><span style="font-family:宋体; font-size:12pt">经市场调查以上四项产品所提检测报告只有大华品牌能够完全满足,其他如海康威视、天地伟业、宇视、佳信捷、科达、中星微、霍尼韦尔等品牌产品不满足检测报告要求。我司所提的完全满足是产品满足招标所有技术参数要求基础上满足检测报告要求,而不是某一参数条款满足三个品牌即可。以上为我司针对商务条款所提质疑,望采购单位一一解答,不要避重就轻。如果不能按照响应的法律法规充分解答问题,我司将保留向上级主管部门投诉的权利。</span></p> <p style="font-size:12pt; line-height:150%; margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 24.05pt; orphans:0; text-align:justify; text-indent:***6.1pt; widows:0"><span style="font-family:宋体; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">采购单位答复***:</span><span style="font-family:宋体; font-size:12pt">经咨询调查国内主流品牌大华科技、海康威视、天地伟业、宇视、科达等多家品牌支持且满足我方要求的产品,不存在排他性。</span></p> <p style="font-size:12pt; line-height:150%; margin:0pt; text-indent:54.6pt"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">供应商问题</span><span style="font-family:宋体; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">4</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">:</span><span style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'; font-size:12pt">1)</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt">联网:城市森林现有监控点位已接入数字城管平台,因此新建系统无需重新敷设物理链路,所提供设备与系统必须可以与数字城管平台进行数据共享。</span><span style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'; font-size:12pt">2)</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt">平台:本项目具有多种应用场景,所使用前端监控设备也不同,因此配备的监控管理系统软件必须能够接入统一管理平台,以便于管理与使用。与其他平台对接是产品是否具有与之相关的协议,如果招标参数中要求有相同的协议,产品自然能够对接,而不是单独要求与某某平台对接。此两条要求适用于《政府采购负面清单</span><span style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'; font-size:12pt">1.1</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt">版》第</span><span style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'; font-size:12pt">9</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt">条“与现有系统匹配、与原设备对接使用、与原系统无缝对接等”,属于禁用内容。</span></p> <p style="font-size:12pt; line-height:150%; margin:0pt; text-indent:54.9pt"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">采购单位答复</span><span style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">4</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">:</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt">我单位经查询《政府采购负面清单</span><span style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'; font-size:12pt">1.1</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt">版》证实禁用内容存在,同意取消。</span></p> <p style="font-size:12pt; line-height:150%; margin:0pt; text-indent:54.9pt"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">供应商问题</span><span style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">5</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt">:存储:市反应恐办对反恐和相关公共场所要求监控录像存储时间不低于</span><span style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'; font-size:12pt">90</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt">天。质疑:存储天数与视频格式、硬盘数量有关,采购单位如果采购的硬盘数量不足以存储</span><span style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'; font-size:12pt">90</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt">天,投标供应商证明保证此要求?这里单独要求此项没有实际意义,建议取消此要求。</span></p> <p style="font-size:12pt; line-height:150%; margin:0pt; text-indent:54.9pt"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">采购单位答复</span><span style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">5</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">:</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt">应大庆市公安和消防部门要求,我单位属于重点安全防范场所,视频存储容量不低于</span><span style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'; font-size:12pt">90</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt">天。经多家厂家咨询如该招标内容清单所供厂家均能达到存储</span><span style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'; font-size:12pt">90</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt">天以上要求,建议质疑单位提前咨询好供货厂家。此项不取消。</span></p> <p style="font-size:12pt; line-height:150%; margin:0pt; text-indent:54.9pt"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">供应商问题</span><span style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">6</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">:</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt">传输:每个监控点建议配备</span><span style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'; font-size:12pt">4</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt">芯光纤,两芯使用两芯备用。质疑:本项目需求中,采购单位所提的光纤为</span><span style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'; font-size:12pt">24</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt">芯和</span><span style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'; font-size:12pt">4</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt">芯,没有低于</span><span style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'; font-size:12pt">4</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt">芯光纤的采购需求,此建议没有实际意义。</span></p> <p style="font-size:12pt; line-height:150%; margin:0pt; text-indent:54.9pt"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">采购单位答复</span><span style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">6</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">:</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt">此项要求是根据现场实际情况设计,建议质疑单位认真阅读招标文件,并进行现场勘察。</span></p> <p style="font-size:12pt; line-height:150%; margin:0pt; text-indent:54.9pt"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">供应商问题</span><span style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">7</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">:</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt">本项目要求预中标供应商中标</span><span style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'; font-size:12pt">***</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt">日内提供所投定点卡口摄像头、</span><span style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'; font-size:12pt">***2</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt">路网络硬盘录像机、高清星光定点枪机、综合管理平台产品的检验报告原件。如不提供取消中标资格。质疑:为什么只要求中标单位提供原件?而不是在开标时提供原件?既然开标评标是提供了检测报告,即说明投标供应商所投产品满足招标要求,如果采购单位必须要求提供原件才能确保产品质量合格,应该在开标时就提供产品检测报告原件,这样才能保证本项目所有投标供应商所投产品为合格产品,如果提供不了原件或者原件不合格,直接取消其投标资格。如果中标后中标供应商无法提供原件,取消其中标资格,本项目还要重新组织招标活动,所有投标供应商和采购中心工作人员还要再次投标,这不仅给采购中心带来了额外的工作,还浪费社会公共资源。上面已经提到只有大华一个品牌满足要求,能够提供原件。采购单位是否知道此情况、知道大华品牌肯定能成为中标品牌,其他品牌无法中标或者中标后也无法提供原件,所以才有此要求?而且中标后提供原件属于不合理要求,违反财政部公布第</span><span style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'; font-size:12pt">87</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt">号令 《政府采购货物和服务招标投标管理办法》第六十九条、第七十条、第七十一条关于中标后必须公示中标结果,中标通知书发出后,采购人不得违法改变中标结果及采购人不得向中标人提出任何不合理的要求作为签订合同的条件等条款。</span></p> <p style="font-size:12pt; line-height:150%; margin:0pt; text-indent:54.9pt"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">采购单位答复</span><span style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">7</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">:</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt">为保证项目投标产品真实性且公平公正。现我单位将中标后提供原件变更为:开标现场提供定点卡口摄像头、高清星光定点枪机、综合管理平台品检测报告原件,否则投标无效。</span></p> <p style="font-size:12pt; line-height:150%; margin:0pt; text-indent:54.9pt"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold">二、</span><span style="color:#ff0000; font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt; font-weight:bold; text-decoration:underline">本项目招标文件已重新发布,请参与本项目投标供应商重新下载招标文件,并根据最新的招标文件制作投标响应文件,否则投标无效。</span></p> <p style="font-size:10.5pt; line-height:150%; margin:0pt; orphans:0; text-align:right; text-indent:21pt; widows:0"><span style="font-family:宋体; font-size:10.5pt"> </span></p> <p style="font-size:10.5pt; line-height:150%; margin:0pt; orphans:0; text-align:right; text-indent:21pt; widows:0"><span style="font-family:宋体; font-size:10.5pt"> </span></p> <p style="font-size:10.5pt; 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